By - Odd-Educator-889
Absolutely not the first all gay crew in the Navy.
* That we know of
Oppenly gay, yes.
Have you *seen* the navy?
I am saying yes it is the first openly gay but not the first gay crew.
They have "NAVY" on their uniforms, it's about as open as it gets
Ohhhhhh i get it now.
It's not gay if you're underway.
They just like being *surrounded* by seamen...
I thought that only applies to marines, as Navy personnel are the seamen.
That’s why they always stow marines in the rear
Something something dip gang going ball’s deep condition hairy.
::motions at a whole ass aircraft carrier::
That's why the caption says first ever *openly* all gay
Let me think…has anyone ever made a single joke about the navy being gay….nope never in the history of mankind has anyone ever made a gay navy joke
Edit: genuinely enjoying all the jokes keep keep them coming
The Navy was gay before it was popular.
Hahaha. It's even funnier because it's true. Take my award.
"Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy, and the lash." - Winston Churchill
And he knew.
Yea I can’t think of any either
Something that was definitely not said to me in ET "A" school: "If 500 men do a tour on a submarine, 250 couples will come back."
Or 499 couples and "I'm not talking to that *bitch*"
Boats don't have sticks
They do got plenty of holes tho 😏
I thought it would be fun to be on ship but the decks would always be covered in seamen
What’s long and hard, and full of seamen?
SPHINX! *snap* - Shore Leave
What a coincidence that all of these guys happen to be assigned to a single crew.
I don't know how it works in the Navy, but in Army units everyone flies with everyone else so it's not that weird. We've had all female crews before and no one really noticed nor cared. Those combinations will just happen eventually.
Yeah no you forget that the more crews there, the higher the chance becomes. What you calculated now is the chance that ONE particular crew is completely gay, but we want to know if ANY is completely gay
If you take for instance 50 people's birthdays, the chance that ANY of them share a birthday is more than 90%
You would have to do the numbers based on the naval aviation community only, not the military writ large.
Lets be honest, that study is probably not very representative of the real numbers. It probably comes down to a similar percentage as found in the civilian population (if we excluude NAVY lol.)
That sounds about right
They dont get assigned randomly tho they get chosen and maybe even planned? So much higher also i think more percent is gay but still in the closet
So the sailor on the far right was one of my coworkers. These are pilots and aircrew from various squadrons along the sea wall that coordinated a flight for this reason.
I'll be honest my guy, I dont think they fucking care
Does anyone really? If they do their job does it really matter?
Man snowflake has really lost its meaning
It really dont.
They’ll use it as anti-U.S. propaganda
When I was outed in aviation I got stabbed, beaten, jumped and extra duty for the rest of the year.
Glad to see we made *some* progress.
I was infantry in 1st ID and we had a guy who was really gay. We gave him shit but if anyone else did they got hit.
F*ck yeah! 1ID had some fun people in it!
There are some openly LGBQT people in our regiment in the UK. They aren’t too expressive about it but it’s definitely an environment in which we look after our own, regardless of orientation.
I’ve worked with another regiment and there is a SNCO who is openly gay and is very expressive about it which was mega. Absolutely loved Johnny Depp 😂
From how some attitudes are currently to chemicals castrations that used to happen years ago - there has been some progress I like to think. With LGBQT history, I really believe that there is a point to having pride with posts like this.
I’m glad to see you’ve had justice for what happened to you.
That’s horrible hopefully you were able to get some justice for those crimes
Oh yeah. They're making big rock into small rock now.
Yeah OP was joking about Iran, Russia, and China as if half the U.S. military won’t hate this
i’d bet my TSP that the ‘Cold War’ veterans with Facebook Comment Action Ribbons are probably the most triggered by shit like this
Any time you bring up mental health improvements in the military, these are the first kind of people that say something like “quit being a pussy and tough it out, I bet China and Russia are laughing their asses off at us”.
I understand that
I remember the Tali’s were afraid of some all female force (Israeli, Kuwaiti, or something) imagine their fear over this. Go get em gays, I mean guys. Lol, No seriously, glad there’s a positive trend here. One team one fight.
I think they were Kurdish female fighters.
The YPJ is who you are thinking of who helped defeat ISIS.
Inb4 Turkish trolls come in here and complain about how they're PKK.
Yeah the Kurds have some kick ass women fighting
Something to do with them not getting 78 virgins if they were killed by a woman.
>Go get em gays!
[The gays are too precious to risk losing them in combat.](https://youtu.be/aotlEpmAFVQ)
Hot Rackin and Taliwackin.
"You know why its called the cockpit right?" "Yes daddy *blushes*"
Lol. When I was in about fourth or fifth grade, I was with my parents at our storage unit. We were all sitting in the car waiting on something. The radio was tuned to some radio talk show, and one of the hosts told a mildly off color joke. Dad turns around, grins at me, and says:
> What do airplane pilots and cheerleaders have in common?
I told him I had no clue, but I noticed mom was glaring at him.
> I dunno dad, what do they have in common?
He grins again and says
He giggled, mom slugged him in the arm, and I sat in the backseat thoroughly confused. It wasn’t until maybe halfway through high school that I realized what the joke meant. Yes, I was a sheltered child.
The fact that this upset so many dip shit motard vets is hilarious lol
Maybe I'm just....weird? But I've never given a shit who you fuck, what colour your skin is, or what's between your legs, so long as you can do the job.
Why is OP worried about appeasing our adversaries' opinions?
Yep. Same ideology here. It’s pointless to try and be diverse if it’s less effective. In all aspects, college, workplace, etc. It’s very unlikely that this was coincidence, even in the navy. Very concerning.
Okay, but what makes you think these guys are any less effective than any other crew? I've personally deployed with one of the pilots, and he's an absolutely phenomenal officer.
Never said that they would be less effective, it’s concerning that it is a priority and a “step in the right direction” to be diverse. Effectiveness comes before diverseness, and because of how unlikely it is that this happened coincidentally it is clear that diversity was a priority.
A larger pool of people to recruit from = more effective fighting force
Gay Service members less likely to be blackmailed for their secre t= more effective fighting force
Gay Service members being able to focus on their job and training instead of being outed = more effective fighting force
You don't care about effectiveness, and it's obvious you're hiding your lack of understanding of the benefits of diversity behind a weak "muh priorities" argument
Yeah, unless I am actively interested in someone sexually, their orientation or gear shouldn’t matter one damn bit, at least that’s how I see it.
The only thing I can think of is the PR team thinking "yup this won't be seen as a joke".
Honestly I think the navy could care less about this, even i don’t really care that much
Who gives a shit what they think?
A diverse force is a deadlier force. Imagine arbitrarily removing potential warriors from your military because of nonsensical cultural hangups.
A deadlier force is a deadlier force. Where you shove your cock makes no difference.
Was used as a weapon by the Ancient Greeks.
I'm not gay and agree with you. I think it's a waste of energy arguing over who someone else should be screwing - some like redheads, some like them on the chubby side, some like men. Who are we to judge?. The most anti gay people I have met tend to be in denial and fighting it.
Imagine if China’s military was more gay. Dear god. We’d be decimated.
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My doc was gay. He was cool af
Easy. The better shot. What you don’t realize is, you don’t give a shit about that stuff when it matters
Edit: if you’re confused by the context of my response, the comment before this keyboard commando edited it was “who would you rather watch your back in a firefight”
It's irrelevant. It's like asking if you would pick someone with green eyes or blue eyes.
He's pro-Iranian so he's just try to stir up shit and make us talk shit about our own troops. Fuck this guy.
Literally does not matter. We prevent this type of stuff from being deciding factors because of its insignificance, and the only people it would matter to is retards like you.
eenie meenie miney moe
their orientation means literally nothing
„uıoɔ ɐ dılɟ noʎ uǝɥ⊥„
flip a coin
How can you be pro Iran when that country sent thousands of children into minefields with qurans so that the tanks they had could get to Iraq?
Would you rather have a black guy or a white guy go to war for you?
Would you rather have a Catholic or a Protestant go to war for you?
Would you rather have a blond guy or a redheaded guy go to war for your?
Your question sounds equally as ridiculous as those ones. Sexual orientation has absolutely no bearing on military competency. Unless you think straight guys fly helicopters better or something.
I prefer a man who understands what it is like to be trapped in a closet and knows how hard it is to fight for himself. Choose the gay
Also as many said we have all had gay doctors, commanders, and fellow soldiers. Whether in or out of the closet.
The one that can do the job
I don’t care who fires what. All that shit better be on target.
My bros finally coming out of the closet good for them. We all knew tho
I'm just here to shit on the bigots
Generations of jokes about the Navy being gay disproves this
Why the fuck does it matter that their gay. No one cares stop advertising that shit and do your job. I could care fuck all if you fucked trees, just do your job.
Cared enough to comment though.
Truth is this is something that would never be allowed to happen in the long history of most militaries so the fact that it is happening now is a milestone whether you like to admit it or not. Someday it won’t be news and that’s a good thing but for right now this is an accomplishment.
Because historically openly gay service members have *not* been welcome in the United States military. Even after the end of DADT. Hell, even today I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find members who've been targeted for their sexuality.
Representation matters. It shows that normalizes people from historically targeted groups being members of an organization, or of society at large. I don't think having an openly gay aircrew is some massive civil rights victory, but it is a net positive, and honestly it's weird you're so upset about it.
Lol, who hurt you
I think their point was that we are past this, being gay is and should be irrelevant to your ability to do your job. If you’re gay as fuck or straight as fuck then that’s cool. In a sense it’s the next stage of acceptance- irrelevancy just as race is (or is treated as in a normative sense).
Unfortunately so many homophobic bigots are current service members or vets
"Guys, sexual orientation doesn't even matter anymore! Let's stop posting shit like this, and also not spend too long digging into why it bothers me so much!"
*Meanwhile at least a dozen comments insinuate that this will cause to lose a war, and at least one guy straight up called these guys disgusting*
I wish you were right.
The us forestry department or dnr.
Exactly. I don’t give a damn, just show me respect I’ll do the same, simple as that.
of course its the US Navy
Today in *Obvious News*...
Good, now we can destroy our enemies... WITH SCATHING REVIEWS!!!
I mean. We're not here to please Russia. China Iran, or people from the south
Have you ever got glitter in your eyes? Or had a man threaten to scratch your eyes out? Those commies better be scared. /s
I mean what matters more, openly gay or can they complete their missions? I vote ability to complete missions.
Do you have any reason to think these guys are less capable of completing the mission than any other air crew? I've deployed with one of the pilots, and he's a phenomenal officer.
How does them being openly gay somehow insinuate that they don’t have the ability to complete their missions?
\>take 2 minutes to grab a picture after 12 hour mission that's taken hundreds of hours to prepare with training, readiness, logistics, etc
"wOw MiLiTaRy So UnFoCuSeD"
Or maybe they have PAOs for news fluff like this and have other departments for things like tactics and strategy that work full time?
Explain how this means the military is focusing on the wrong thing?
You realize PAO is a thing right?
It’s not like generals are all sitting at a table trying to find the perfect photo of a gay hell crew lmao
If anyone was going to do it, It had to be the Navy
Shut your closet door.
Get the fuck over it old man.
Uhuh. Go on.
I'm sure with all of your life experience you'd be able to get your and you're figured out. Oh well.
Oh get a fucking grip
Get a fucking grip.
Oh man, wait til you find out how many *not* openly gay service members there've been.
Cry about it
We’ve had floating orgies since at least October 13, 1775. This is just the next evolution.
I dont love it but it will add salt in the wound when the battle bus of butt buddies rains hell on those impoverished fucks
Aren’t uhh all flags made up??
Well the Danish flag fell from the sky but every other flag is
No, Jesus himself delivered the American flag to Moses on Mt Rushmore in 1776.
Read a book, idiot.
I have failed to educate myself and do research. I’ll do better next time
Permaban for saying LGBT are mentally unwell. get the absolute FUCK out.
How about you go fuck yourself. You've never served so shut the fuck up.
One team, one fight
The U.S. Navy guys will be happy to see this
“If you like adventure, don't you wait to enter
The recruiter fast…
Don't you hesitate, there is no need to wait
They're signing up new seamen fast”
It seems like they're painting it as a negative, but if China and Russia hate gay people that much, isn't it better in a psyop way that they know they're getting killed by that which they hate?
Them them. I don't give a rats ass if the Russians/Chinese/Iranians think this makes us "weak" or whatever. Spoiler alert: it does not.
Call me crazy, but if the Sacred Band of Thebes is anything to go off of, there might actually be some advantages to this.
The logic behind the Sacred Band being if you have a military unit full of boyfriends, they will absolutely fight like all fucking hell to keep each other safe no matter what. Unlike your straight ass with your battle buddy, members of the Sacred Band actually like each other, and with the love of their life being the guy right next to them, they have some very real, immediately relevant, skin in the game.
Here's a cool little video on them!
Skip to 6:00 to get past geopolitical bullshit.
Politics aside, this helicopter unit might actually be a really, really good idea.
The amount of homophobic fuck wads in the r/mademesmile post was astronomical
And what’s even worse is that some of the more severely homophobic remarks and ridicules were heavily upvoted smh
Great too see this! With the history of being gay in the military it’s good to see what happening!
Ok? As long as the mission gets done.
Why would the Russians/Chinese/North Koreans care? White people find the dumbest shit to get mad about.
Because we have gay aviators? Lol.
Because openly gay aviators?
Are you that much of a pathetic moron to believe gay service members makes the US less lethal?
have you read about encounters between US and Russian SF in Syria?
let's just say the ruskies didn't have a good time
Bro....calm down no shit we got issues. U ain't better either no matter where the fuck ur from.
Don't forget the rum!
I am made of questions about your "logic".
Do you think gay people fly helicopters, fire missiles, or shoot rifles less effectively than straight people? And if so are you under the impression that gay people don't exist in other countries?
...because of this? Are these guys supposedly less-than or less-qualified because they like dudes instead of girls?