* Sandman was more of an FF villain than a Spider-man villain for a decade.
* Norman Osborn was a villain for everyone for Dark Reign with him facing the Avengers, X-men and concluding with him attacking Asgard.
* Mysterio fought She-hulk in an early issue of Sensational She-hulk.
* Kraven will probably hunt every animal themed hero at some point.
* Rhino has fought the Hulk many times.
not always. after rhino’s initial three appearances in asm (#41-43), he disappeared from the title for 20 years, until #280, during which time he mainly appeared in the incredible hulk.
God I loved Dark Reign. Such an interesting time for so many characters. It's been awhile since I read it but I remember quite enjoying the Dark Avengers and Dark X-Men quite a bit.
Yeah Sandman was even part of a specific anti Fantastic Four group of villains called the Frightful Four for quite a while in the 60’s. Notably one of the other early Frightful Four members was Medusa of the Inhumans but to be fair, I believe Medusa has was suffering from amnesia at the time and was manipulated to help the villains.
Daredevil also fought [Electro](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTh9Gkbz2Y2iafuElOVoSuS5-Q9uwcxFztInA&usqp=CAU)
Sandman fought [the Fantastic Four](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyNcaAv-_3uiCS6ekx_bsrKjNKZDNiHfu1Ew&usqp=CAU) and he is a founding member not only of the Sinister Six but also [the Frightful Four](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Frightful_Four_(Earth-616))
Depending on when this fight takes place, Mysterio's illusions affect all the senses, not just sight.
Also, not everyone actually knows that Daredevil is blind. Just like not everyone actually knows that Spider-Man has a spider sense
Mysterio has demonstrated several types of illusions that affect other senses besides sight, which can be very detrimental to Daredevil's other heightened senses.
As a curious fact, there is another justification for which Mystery faced Daredevil, in this story Mystery had a terminal cancer having his days numbered and as wanted to be remembered as a great villain went for Daredevil to kill, Daredevil ended up defeating Mystery and for the shame of losing in the end Mystery ended up committing suicide.
He used his tricks to convince other people of illusions. Sending people that swore they saw visions of God to Daredevil, making him question the truth since he could tell they weren’t lying.
He knew about Matt because of Fisk, so he had that advantage before getting into it, and getting whooped.
That would be fine by me
-Peter gets an easy enough Villain to beat
-Artists gets to draw Peter doing spectacular Ariel moves
Now I’m bummed the draft is not actually a thing lol
The Sandman actually spend years as more of a FF villain than Spider-Man. And of course nearly all american heroes had to deal with Osborn and Mac Gargan doing Dark Reign.
- Carnage fought and won against the Silver Surfer in ASM #431
- Sandman is a founding member of The Frightful Four and has fought the Fantastic Four multiple times
- Sandman fought the Hulk multiple times in the 70s, so did The Rhino
- The classic Wolverine Vs Venom fight from Ultimate Spider-Man
- Electro is the villain in the 2nd or 3rd issue of Daredevil, pretty sure DD fights The Enforcers a couple issues later too
- Sandman fights then briefly joins the Avengers in the 90s
- The Sentry killed Carnage in New Avengers #2
- The Human Torch and Iceman fight the Sinister Six in The Death Of Ultimate Spider-Man
- The symbiote fights and infects multiple heroes such as Wolverine, Luke Cage, and Moon Knight in Spider-Man: Web Of Shadows. A similar storyline happened in the comics later with King In Black
- Norman Osborn fights everyone in Dark Reign
I love the [Texts from Superheroes](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F281543706768428%2F&psig=AOvVaw069fIJozV7LbEyhTC8tE34&ust=1675979016353000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA8QjRxqFwoTCPCzg_nyhv0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAS) about this.
If Mysterio had some prep time and knew Daredevil had enhanced senses he could possibly rig up some machines to mess with that. Various sprays of chemicals and perfumes to mislead and overwhelm. Use subsonic frequencies to mess with balance and really disorient him. Mysterio could be a problem for him. But again it requires prior knowledge and prep time.
Well, technically, The Punisher(more of an anti-hero), was a Spidey adversary before he was DD's. 1st appearance being in ASM #129. The cover is so classic that homages of it still happen to this day!
And for an enemy that went from DD to Spidey...who could forget the ever lovable Stilt-Man? Though he first appeared waaaaay back in Daredevil #8, the villain has gone on to make appearances every few years or so in both books. There's even a Lady Stilt-Man(ASM #611 for that classic showdown!) out there!
There's TONS of ne'er do wells that DD and Spidey share: Black Cat, Kingpin, Hammerhead, Bullseye, Deadpool....the list goes on and on.
Edit: Auto-correct needed to be auto corrected.
I feel like everyone had fought venom between the 80’s and 90’s, and not even counting venoms own book I recall him fighting, the Avengers (death trap: the Vault), Ironman (Ironman 302), Darkhawk (Darkhawk 13), nova (nova 7), Daredevil (DD 323, silver sable (Silver Sable 18), Nightwatch (Nightwatch 5), Hulk (hulk vs Venom),
Sabretooth started out as a villain for Spidey and Iron Fist before he started getting bits of himself hacked off by Wolvie.
And it's comics, everybody fights everybody at some point. Hell, the Silver Samurai fought John Belushi once.
Daredevil’s second issue ever was him fighting Electro. Also he basically stole Kingpin from Spidey, but arguably that made the character of Wilson Fisk better.
Daredevil fought Spider-Man villains all the time. He’s also flight electro, vulture, doc ock etc.
Marvel’s street level heroes have a somewhat shared pool of villains.
Kingpin started out as a gimmicky Spider-Man villain, then became Daredevil's archenemy, then became the enemy of just about anyone trying to fight crime in the New York area. I'm pretty sure the X-Men went after him at some point.
Juggernaut fought the Hulk a lot
Dr Doom fought the hulk, iron man, avengers and the x-men
Also look at Acts of Vengeance story….every villain at the time fought heroes outside the norm
Oh whoa...that is a terrible match-up for Mysterio. What good are his illusions against Daredevil? Know wonder he looks like he got his ass whooped in that issue.
I have long maintained when comparing Batman to Spider-Man that 90% of Spider-Man's rogues would have Batman for lunch, but he'd likely handle Mysterio with some degree of ease.
That 90% may be generous. Some of Spider-Man's bad guys are real turkeys. (including, the Turkey)
* Sandman was more of an FF villain than a Spider-man villain for a decade. * Norman Osborn was a villain for everyone for Dark Reign with him facing the Avengers, X-men and concluding with him attacking Asgard. * Mysterio fought She-hulk in an early issue of Sensational She-hulk. * Kraven will probably hunt every animal themed hero at some point. * Rhino has fought the Hulk many times.
Wait, which issues has Rhino fought hulk? And who won?
Incredible Hulk Vol 1 Issue 378 Actually a really fun read plus Peter David writing Hulk is always good in my eyes.
Incredible Hulk #104 (1968) is the first time if I remember correctly.
If I remember right, rhino was more of a hulk villain first then was used for spidey and just stuck
That's wrong, Rhino is and always was mainly a Spider-Man villain
not always. after rhino’s initial three appearances in asm (#41-43), he disappeared from the title for 20 years, until #280, during which time he mainly appeared in the incredible hulk.
God I loved Dark Reign. Such an interesting time for so many characters. It's been awhile since I read it but I remember quite enjoying the Dark Avengers and Dark X-Men quite a bit.
Yeah Sandman was even part of a specific anti Fantastic Four group of villains called the Frightful Four for quite a while in the 60’s. Notably one of the other early Frightful Four members was Medusa of the Inhumans but to be fair, I believe Medusa has was suffering from amnesia at the time and was manipulated to help the villains.
Kraven’s teamed up with Squirrel Girl, and also had Mister Sinister take his DNA to create a clone with.
he didnt hunt her like the douche he is?
No. She is Squirrel Girl not Leopard Girl.
Sandman was also an Avenger for a looooong time if memory serves
Sandman as a FF villain makes a lot of sense. Really all of the element themed villains. Hydro, Molten, etc.
I want to say Kraven was dead by that point but A Puma vs Kraven storyline would have been pretty dope
That time in Kirby run when Sandman took a chemistry course and built himself an armor was crazy
Kraven also fought elektra daredevil which was cool
Don’t forget mysterio vs wolverine in old man Logan.
Kraven just tried to hunt Beast & Wolverine in X-factor.
Vulture also fought Daredevil Doc Ock faced Tony a couple of times
Honestly Norman Osborn is an antagonist to every person on Earth at this point
Wolverine has fought Venom before
“Oh you made Spider-Man sad? I stabbed the hulk last week” is such a badass line by Logan
Who are you again? Goo?
That line is leagues better than the post credits scene for Morbius
Dude, even *my pickup lines* are better than the Morbius post credits scene.
“Hey baby, if you put U and I together we could Morb all night”
Huh?
That glass helmet has gotten shattered so many times. You'd think he'd invest in some plexiglass or something.
"Oh God! All I see is glass and blood!"
How does he get thru a single day without breaking it at least once
Kraven has gone after Tigra on numerous occasions.
Like to hunt or.....
Hunt
Is that what we’re calling it these days? Sure he wanted to “hunt” tigra.😉
Hell, most probably want to “hunt” tigra
Daredevil also fought [Electro](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTh9Gkbz2Y2iafuElOVoSuS5-Q9uwcxFztInA&usqp=CAU) Sandman fought [the Fantastic Four](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyNcaAv-_3uiCS6ekx_bsrKjNKZDNiHfu1Ew&usqp=CAU) and he is a founding member not only of the Sinister Six but also [the Frightful Four](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Frightful_Four_(Earth-616))
The Danny Ketch Ghost rider fought Hobgoblin. Darkhawk also fought Hobgoblin.
Mysterio is a moron. What are illusions gonna do against the ONE blind superhero.
Tbf he did absolutely fuck over Daredevil for a good bit in Guardian Devil
Mysterio uses other types of illusions, and he also frequently makes use of hallucinogens.
Depending on when this fight takes place, Mysterio's illusions affect all the senses, not just sight. Also, not everyone actually knows that Daredevil is blind. Just like not everyone actually knows that Spider-Man has a spider sense
Mysterio has demonstrated several types of illusions that affect other senses besides sight, which can be very detrimental to Daredevil's other heightened senses. As a curious fact, there is another justification for which Mystery faced Daredevil, in this story Mystery had a terminal cancer having his days numbered and as wanted to be remembered as a great villain went for Daredevil to kill, Daredevil ended up defeating Mystery and for the shame of losing in the end Mystery ended up committing suicide.
He used his tricks to convince other people of illusions. Sending people that swore they saw visions of God to Daredevil, making him question the truth since he could tell they weren’t lying. He knew about Matt because of Fisk, so he had that advantage before getting into it, and getting whooped.
Honestly if there was like a superhero draft I’d have mysterio be a daredevil Villian since he uses stuff that 100% can overload the senses
And Spidey gets stuck with Stiltman
That would be fine by me -Peter gets an easy enough Villain to beat -Artists gets to draw Peter doing spectacular Ariel moves Now I’m bummed the draft is not actually a thing lol
That’d be hilarious & awesome.
If I'm remembering correctly he tried to trick Matt into killing a baby by making him think it was the anti christ. It was pretty messed up actually.
Scratch and sniff ones
Daredevil’s archenemy is a Spider-Man villain
Old man Logan? Wasn’t mysterio the one who tricked logan into killing the rest of the X-men
Yep is one the reasons why when Old man Logan came to the main universe he stalked Mysterio in order to kill him
The Sandman actually spend years as more of a FF villain than Spider-Man. And of course nearly all american heroes had to deal with Osborn and Mac Gargan doing Dark Reign.
Daredevil has tussled with Black Cat if you catch my drift.
- Carnage fought and won against the Silver Surfer in ASM #431 - Sandman is a founding member of The Frightful Four and has fought the Fantastic Four multiple times - Sandman fought the Hulk multiple times in the 70s, so did The Rhino - The classic Wolverine Vs Venom fight from Ultimate Spider-Man - Electro is the villain in the 2nd or 3rd issue of Daredevil, pretty sure DD fights The Enforcers a couple issues later too - Sandman fights then briefly joins the Avengers in the 90s - The Sentry killed Carnage in New Avengers #2 - The Human Torch and Iceman fight the Sinister Six in The Death Of Ultimate Spider-Man - The symbiote fights and infects multiple heroes such as Wolverine, Luke Cage, and Moon Knight in Spider-Man: Web Of Shadows. A similar storyline happened in the comics later with King In Black - Norman Osborn fights everyone in Dark Reign
moon knight has fought against norman osborne
Look, we’ve all fought Norman Osborne, okay?
I love the [Texts from Superheroes](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F281543706768428%2F&psig=AOvVaw069fIJozV7LbEyhTC8tE34&ust=1675979016353000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA8QjRxqFwoTCPCzg_nyhv0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAS) about this.
Yeah, I was going to ask if Mysterio had any effect on Daredevil. I wouldn’t have to imagine not really?
If Mysterio had some prep time and knew Daredevil had enhanced senses he could possibly rig up some machines to mess with that. Various sprays of chemicals and perfumes to mislead and overwhelm. Use subsonic frequencies to mess with balance and really disorient him. Mysterio could be a problem for him. But again it requires prior knowledge and prep time.
Most of Cloak and Dagger’s rogues are shared with either Doctor Strange or Spider-Man.
Most Darkhawk villians are Spidey's or New Warriors
I assume Acts of Vengeance crossover sent many of them all over
Well, technically, The Punisher(more of an anti-hero), was a Spidey adversary before he was DD's. 1st appearance being in ASM #129. The cover is so classic that homages of it still happen to this day! And for an enemy that went from DD to Spidey...who could forget the ever lovable Stilt-Man? Though he first appeared waaaaay back in Daredevil #8, the villain has gone on to make appearances every few years or so in both books. There's even a Lady Stilt-Man(ASM #611 for that classic showdown!) out there! There's TONS of ne'er do wells that DD and Spidey share: Black Cat, Kingpin, Hammerhead, Bullseye, Deadpool....the list goes on and on. Edit: Auto-correct needed to be auto corrected.
In a crossover example, Batman fought Carnage and Spidey fought Joker.
Was looking for this.
Captain America fought scorpion I think
Surprised no mention of Blade vs. Morbius yet.
[https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/18458/deadpool\_vs\_carnage\_2014](https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/18458/deadpool_vs_carnage_2014)
The Human Torch has fought against Hammer Head
I think Arcade debuted against Spidey, but soon enough he became a regular rogue against the X-Men.
I feel like everyone had fought venom between the 80’s and 90’s, and not even counting venoms own book I recall him fighting, the Avengers (death trap: the Vault), Ironman (Ironman 302), Darkhawk (Darkhawk 13), nova (nova 7), Daredevil (DD 323, silver sable (Silver Sable 18), Nightwatch (Nightwatch 5), Hulk (hulk vs Venom),
Fantastic Four (particularly Human Torch) are in there somewhere too.
Electro was the villain of Daredevil’s second issue.
Sabretooth started out as a villain for Spidey and Iron Fist before he started getting bits of himself hacked off by Wolvie. And it's comics, everybody fights everybody at some point. Hell, the Silver Samurai fought John Belushi once.
Have you seen the beginning of old man logan?
Daredevil’s second issue ever was him fighting Electro. Also he basically stole Kingpin from Spidey, but arguably that made the character of Wilson Fisk better.
Deadpool has fought Carnage
Deadpool also was a hobgoblin, or was going to be but went to the wrong airport....
There’s the time Shocker moved to New Jersey and made himself an enemy of Kamala Khan because he got tired of every other hero living in NYC.
Daredevil fought Spider-Man villains all the time. He’s also flight electro, vulture, doc ock etc. Marvel’s street level heroes have a somewhat shared pool of villains.
Kingpin started out as a gimmicky Spider-Man villain, then became Daredevil's archenemy, then became the enemy of just about anyone trying to fight crime in the New York area. I'm pretty sure the X-Men went after him at some point.
Chameleon has a habit of popping up all over, appears ina few of the SHIELD runs and a few captain America and Iron Man stories I think
Isn't Daredevil like a perfect counter to mysterio?
Electro seems to be the generic heavy-hitter of the Marvel universe. He's fought pretty much everyone except maybe the X-Men.
Hulk fought Rhino a few times, Mr. Fantastic fought Doc Ock, Iron Man fought Venom... there's probably more but I'm drawing a blank.
Deadpool is currently fighting Doc Ock in the new run
I know OP said “outside of team-ups,” but the only thing I can think of is Sandman joining the Frightful Four to fight the Fantastic Four.
Electro fought daredevil at one point
Juggernaut fought the Hulk a lot Dr Doom fought the hulk, iron man, avengers and the x-men Also look at Acts of Vengeance story….every villain at the time fought heroes outside the norm
Punisher
Alot of people either forgot or don't know Punisher originally appeared as a Spider-Man villian.
Oh yeah. I straight up forgot myself
venom is so over powered for spiderman Thor could fight him.
Venom and carnage have fought basically everybody
Yup, and with the insane roster of characters from “Maximum Carnage” there are a ton more not listed yet… Iron Fist, for one.
Mysterio also famously fought Wolverine once. That went… poorly…
Morlun has gone after Black Panther before, which I think is honestly a way cooler use of him than what they did in Spider-verse.
Daredevil fought Electro early on
Here’s the obvious one I haven’t seen: Kingpin was originally a Spider-Man hero. He still is, but he’s more associated with DD nowadays.
You didn’t know that? He once fought the Hulk too. Got his ass beat but still wouldn’t give up.
Oh whoa...that is a terrible match-up for Mysterio. What good are his illusions against Daredevil? Know wonder he looks like he got his ass whooped in that issue.
Guardian Devil storyline. Daredevil Vol. 2 #1-6. Really good story
Sabertooth was introduced in an Iron Fist comic.
Didnt Spider-Man fight juggernaut a few times?
Yup
Omega the Unknown fought Electro once
Don’t daredevil basically share all of spider man’s rouges?
Was he able to see through his illusions because of his heightened senses?
I think numerous avengers fought venom at some point The ultimates fought the sinister 6
I have long maintained when comparing Batman to Spider-Man that 90% of Spider-Man's rogues would have Batman for lunch, but he'd likely handle Mysterio with some degree of ease. That 90% may be generous. Some of Spider-Man's bad guys are real turkeys. (including, the Turkey)
Mysterio (in the Old Man Logan series) tricks Logan into thinking all of the X-Men are villains and he kills the entire team